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Re: Mark Cooper

Postby FGR Casual 2 » Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:34 am

Silver Surfer wrote:The big problem with this pathetic minority is that any actions against them will be blown up on their "social" media sites as heavy handed oppression by "the regime", and that they are the innocent victims. Best to let them run their course and let them know what the majority think of them. Of course any actions they take that transcend the rules should be stamped on.

I was particularly disappointed when, at a recent home game, a large banner of Trevor Horsley was displayed. It gave me great pleasure to be reminded of him and all he did for FGR. However someone pointed out that they actually didn't give a toss about TH, and were only using his image to "get at" the current management,. I wonder what his family feel about his image being used in this way. Truly pathetic, childish and insensitive behaviour.

As others have said, if they want to support a friendly amateur football club that is based in Nailsworth then I'm sure Shortwood would be glad of their custom.


Absolute nonsense, you should have a good think and get this post removed. This post is truly pathetic, childish and insensitive, considering a fair few members of said group knew Trevor for a long time, some worked for him, others played in his memorial game at TNL.

You realise that banner was made from funds collected amongst fans online and any profits were donated to a cancer charity? No I bet you didn't..

Please point out how it has ever been used to "get at" the current management? You can't..
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Re: Mark Cooper

Postby FGR Casual 2 » Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:43 am

Tj1889 wrote:Are we seeing a mirror of wider society? A small but very vocal group of anger driven right wing protesters? Ideals driven by a rose tinted view of the past?
I think the questions we are debating here are the same ones being debated all over the country. I believe the only remedy is for reasonable people to stand firm and make themselves heard.


It's similar, but not in the way that a centrist Liberal boomer such as yourself may think..

The club's been taken over by a multi millionaire businessman parading as a nice, soft social leftist - Neo Liberalism.
Slowly he has eaten away at the things that made the club what it once was (the badge, the colours, soon the stadium) and changed them for his own benefit - Corporatism
A section of the most vocal fans, who have been there for decades, feel pushed out because these corporate liberal views seem to be working against them to change what it was they once loved - Much like how working class people voted in favour of Brexit
Now we have an internet forum of middle class baby boomers discussing how they're all in the wrong for voicing their opinion, something which as paying football fans (or in this analogy, registered voters) they are well within their right to do - Again, very much like Brexit.
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Re: Mark Cooper

Postby FGR-Ledge » Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:35 am

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Tj1889 wrote:Are we seeing a mirror of wider society? A small but very vocal group of anger driven right wing protesters? Ideals driven by a rose tinted view of the past?
I think the questions we are debating here are the same ones being debated all over the country. I believe the only remedy is for reasonable people to stand firm and make themselves heard.


It's similar, but not in the way that a centrist Liberal boomer such as yourself may think..

The club's been taken over by a multi millionaire businessman parading as a nice, soft social leftist - Neo Liberalism.
Slowly he has eaten away at the things that made the club what it once was (the badge, the colours, soon the stadium) and changed them for his own benefit - Corporatism
A section of the most vocal fans, who have been there for decades, feel pushed out because these corporate liberal views seem to be working against them to change what it was they once loved - Much like how working class people voted in favour of Brexit
Now we have an internet forum of middle class baby boomers discussing how they're all in the wrong for voicing their opinion, something which as paying football fans (or in this analogy, registered voters) they are well within their right to do - Again, very much like Brexit.


The funny thing is, myself and many other long serving "true" fans used to have a great deal of sympathy for your plight. We tried to organise meetings with yourselves and the club and fought for bans to be quashed.

However the absolutely appalling behaviour from your group of cretins has tarnished our great club and made yiu look like a bunch of thick, narrow-minded right wing thugs.

It is incredibly sad and pathetic and have lost any good will from pretty much all long-serving fans.

If you had all used an ounce of humility and intelligence, you would have probably been in a point of strength and unity, instead you look embarrassing.

Sorry for the bluntness, but many people I know think the same and you are thought of as pond-life now.
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Re: Mark Cooper

Postby FGR Casual 2 » Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:39 am

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FGR Casual 2 wrote:
Tj1889 wrote:Are we seeing a mirror of wider society? A small but very vocal group of anger driven right wing protesters? Ideals driven by a rose tinted view of the past?
I think the questions we are debating here are the same ones being debated all over the country. I believe the only remedy is for reasonable people to stand firm and make themselves heard.


It's similar, but not in the way that a centrist Liberal boomer such as yourself may think..

The club's been taken over by a multi millionaire businessman parading as a nice, soft social leftist - Neo Liberalism.
Slowly he has eaten away at the things that made the club what it once was (the badge, the colours, soon the stadium) and changed them for his own benefit - Corporatism
A section of the most vocal fans, who have been there for decades, feel pushed out because these corporate liberal views seem to be working against them to change what it was they once loved - Much like how working class people voted in favour of Brexit
Now we have an internet forum of middle class baby boomers discussing how they're all in the wrong for voicing their opinion, something which as paying football fans (or in this analogy, registered voters) they are well within their right to do - Again, very much like Brexit.


The funny thing is, myself and many other long serving "true" fans used to have a great deal of sympathy for your plight. We tried to organise meetings with yourselves and the club and fought for bans to be quashed.

However the absolutely appalling behaviour from your group of cretins has tarnished our great club and made yiu look like a bunch of thick, narrow-minded right wing thugs.

It is incredibly sad and pathetic and have lost any good will from pretty much all long-serving fans.

If you had all used an ounce of humility and intelligence, you would have probably been in a point of strength and unity, instead you look embarrassing.

Sorry for the bluntness, but many people I know think the same and you are thought of as pond-life now.


I haven't been for months so couldn't possibly know which "group" you refer too. I also know that the majority of my specific group, who were previously very vocal, haven't been travelling home or away so I'd assume this is a separate fraction. Hence why I've not responded to the posts on here referring to recent instances of swearing and abuse directed at Cooper.
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Re: Mark Cooper

Postby FGR-Ledge » Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:49 am

It's all stoked up by the likes of you on Social Media.

Don't try and pretend you are some sort of Innocent angel in all of this.

The likes of you and your cronies could kill this club.

Any true FGR fan would attend too.
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Re: Mark Cooper

Postby FGR Casual 2 » Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:55 am

FGR-Ledge wrote:It's all stoked up by the likes of you on Social Media.

Don't try and pretend you are some sort of Innocent angel in all of this.

The likes of you and your cronies could kill this club.

Any true FGR fan would attend too.


You say it like you know who I am.. False accusations aren't too clever FGR-Ledge.

I came on to address the other false accusations made by Silver Surfer in regards to the TH banner. I don't wish to engage in vitriol regarding something completely unrelated to me.

Good day to you sir.
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Re: Mark Cooper

Postby Bristol_Green » Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:59 am

FGR Casual 2 wrote:
Tj1889 wrote:Are we seeing a mirror of wider society? A small but very vocal group of anger driven right wing protesters? Ideals driven by a rose tinted view of the past?
I think the questions we are debating here are the same ones being debated all over the country. I believe the only remedy is for reasonable people to stand firm and make themselves heard.


It's similar, but not in the way that a centrist Liberal boomer such as yourself may think..

The club's been taken over by a multi millionaire businessman parading as a nice, soft social leftist - Neo Liberalism.
Slowly he has eaten away at the things that made the club what it once was (the badge, the colours, soon the stadium) and changed them for his own benefit - Corporatism
A section of the most vocal fans, who have been there for decades, feel pushed out because these corporate liberal views seem to be working against them to change what it was they once loved - Much like how working class people voted in favour of Brexit
Now we have an internet forum of middle class baby boomers discussing how they're all in the wrong for voicing their opinion, something which as paying football fans (or in this analogy, registered voters) they are well within their right to do - Again, very much like Brexit.

The new badge is better than the old Barcelona rip-off.

Kits change. We have played in all white tops, black and white stripes, red and white stripes, blue and white stripes, and now green and black. All clubs go through it.

Clubs grow and move grounds.

You've stopped supporting the club, and thrown your toys out of the pram because the badge and kit colour changed... really :?

Don't be so parochial. You seem to want FGR locked in some bygone age... Well that ain't gonna happen.
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Re: Mark Cooper

Postby FGR Casual 2 » Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:11 am

Bristol_Green wrote:The new badge is better than the old Barcelona rip-off.

Kits change. We have played in all white tops, black and white stripes, red and white stripes, blue and white stripes, and now green and black. All clubs go through it.

Clubs grow and move grounds.

Don't be so parochial. You seem to want FGR locked in some bygone age... Well that ain't gonna happen.


Don't agree on either badge nor kit points - which clubs off the top of your head have changed kit colours in the last 60-70 years? With the exception of Cardiff who have now changed it back. Not to mention to the official colours of the company owned by the same chairman who changed the colours.

(Edit - lets go with 100 years? Most clubs dabbled with kits around the late 1800's early 1900's when they would borrow from other clubs before deciding on a typical home shirt colour etc.)

The stadium, you have a fair point and I would usually agree, however, in my opinion we haven't outgrown the New Lawn and I believe it's possible for the relevant improvements to be made to the current site in order to accommodate the recent attendances.

Sadly, I have come to accept that this is no longer a traditional football club, more of a corporate play toy and political mouthpiece for a multi millionaire businessmen. As a result, I have stopped attending FGR matches.
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Re: Mark Cooper

Postby Chrisgump11 » Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:16 am

FGR Casual 2. Like everyone, you are entitled to your opinion. But it reads like a sit com representation of a hippy socialist. Do you really believe your own words?

So, lets sort a few things out. Dale Vince did not 'take over' the club, he was invited in. The Chair and largest shareholder, Trevor Horsley SOLD the Club to him. Besides, it was in dire financial straits and would probably have collapsed

It was distressing to see Trevor fall our with Dale shortly after, but that can happen when a long standing and respected former Chair steps down. I am pleased that they reconciled a couple of years before his untimely death and he even lent his support to the New Stadium

Unlike financially greedy/agressive Chairs of other clubs, Dale sought to make FGR more customer & family friendly as well as investing in new players and so on. And that has worked on and off the pitch including wonderfully successful community initiatives like the Ambassador scheme

Dale's price? He's a committed enviromentalist, a man well ahead of his time. As ever, many clubs and companies will follow his lead. FGR has never been more 'followed' nor respected nor newsworthy

Every ailing organisation needs a make-over at times. The badge & shirt changes were a shock to us all, but most would concede that they have brought a fresher and yes, cooler look to our Club. They sell like hot cakes

As others have pointed out, Dale has also been at pains to extend olive branches to the minority of unpersuaded, traditionally-committed supporters. The response has been to take what he's offered then hurl insults back

Face facts. That false world you thought you inhabited did not exist except in your imagination. Still you cling to it and have the affrontery to ridicule others who don't agree - the huge majority

Finally, do you think the late Trevor Horsley would be honoured by insults people are shouting under his banner? Not the man I knew
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Re: Mark Cooper

Postby FGR Casual 2 » Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:22 am

Chrisgump11 wrote:FGR Casual 2. Like everyone, you are entitled to your opinion. But it reads like a sit com representation of a hippy socialist. Do you really believe your own words?

So, lets sort a few things out. Dale Vince did not 'take over' the club, he was invited in. The Chair and largest shareholder, Trevor Horsley SOLD the Club to him. Besides, it was in dire financial straits and would probably have collapsed

It was distressing to see Trevor fall our with Dale shortly after, but that can happen when a long standing and respected former Chair steps down. I am pleased that they reconciled a couple of years before his untimely death and he even lent his support to the New Stadium

Unlike financially greedy/agressive Chairs of other clubs, Dale sought to make FGR more customer & family friendly as well as investing in new players and so on. And that has worked on and off the pitch including wonderfully successful community initiatives like the Ambassador scheme

Dale's price? He's a committed enviromentalist, a man well ahead of his time. As ever, many clubs and companies will follow his lead. FGR has never been more 'followed' nor respected nor newsworthy

Every ailing organisation needs a make-over at times. The badge & shirt changes were a shock to us all, but most would concede that they have brought a fresher and yes, cooler look to our Club. They sell like hot cakes

As others have pointed out, Dale has also been at pains to extend olive branches to the minority of unpersuaded, traditionally-committed supporters. The response has been to take what he's offered then hurl insults back

Face facts. That false world you thought you inhabited did not exist except in your imagination. Still you cling to it and have the affrontery to ridicule others who don't agree - the huge majority

Finally, do you think the late Trevor Horsley would be honoured by insults people are shouting under his banner? Not the man I knew


Chris, you can PM me if you further wish to debate my socialist views and why I no longer attend matches at FGR. I'm open to that.

I came on here after seeing Silver Surfer's disgusting post and felt that I could not stay silent on the matter and it needed addressing.
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Re: Mark Cooper

Postby Tomiswalking » Wed Jan 15, 2020 12:01 pm

FGR Casual 2 wrote:
Chrisgump11 wrote:FGR Casual 2. Like everyone, you are entitled to your opinion. But it reads like a sit com representation of a hippy socialist. Do you really believe your own words?

So, lets sort a few things out. Dale Vince did not 'take over' the club, he was invited in. The Chair and largest shareholder, Trevor Horsley SOLD the Club to him. Besides, it was in dire financial straits and would probably have collapsed

It was distressing to see Trevor fall our with Dale shortly after, but that can happen when a long standing and respected former Chair steps down. I am pleased that they reconciled a couple of years before his untimely death and he even lent his support to the New Stadium

Unlike financially greedy/agressive Chairs of other clubs, Dale sought to make FGR more customer & family friendly as well as investing in new players and so on. And that has worked on and off the pitch including wonderfully successful community initiatives like the Ambassador scheme

Dale's price? He's a committed enviromentalist, a man well ahead of his time. As ever, many clubs and companies will follow his lead. FGR has never been more 'followed' nor respected nor newsworthy

Every ailing organisation needs a make-over at times. The badge & shirt changes were a shock to us all, but most would concede that they have brought a fresher and yes, cooler look to our Club. They sell like hot cakes

As others have pointed out, Dale has also been at pains to extend olive branches to the minority of unpersuaded, traditionally-committed supporters. The response has been to take what he's offered then hurl insults back

Face facts. That false world you thought you inhabited did not exist except in your imagination. Still you cling to it and have the affrontery to ridicule others who don't agree - the huge majority

Finally, do you think the late Trevor Horsley would be honoured by insults people are shouting under his banner? Not the man I knew


Chris, you can PM me if you further wish to debate my socialist views and why I no longer attend matches at FGR. I'm open to that.

I came on here after seeing Silver Surfer's disgusting post and felt that I could not stay silent on the matter and it needed addressing.

You are obviously upset, which is fair enough. It's very hard to be on here, or anywhere at the moment without feeling polarised into one 'group' or another. Well done for saying your bit, shame you got drawn into all the name calling i lost your point once you started having a go. Same with the southstand 7, like fgr-ledge said, they had our support, like them I'm not going to stand by and let anyone destroy our club. At the moment they are the problem, not DV.
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Re: Mark Cooper

Postby Kentstripe » Wed Jan 15, 2020 12:07 pm

FGR-Ledge wrote:The funny thing is, myself and many other long serving "true" fans used to have a great deal of sympathy for your plight. We tried to organise meetings with yourselves and the club and fought for bans to be quashed.

However the absolutely appalling behaviour from your group of cretins has tarnished our great club and made yiu look like a bunch of thick, narrow-minded right wing thugs.

It is incredibly sad and pathetic and have lost any good will from pretty much all long-serving fans.

If you had all used an ounce of humility and intelligence, you would have probably been in a point of strength and unity, instead you look embarrassing.

Sorry for the bluntness, but many people I know think the same and you are thought of as pond-life now.


This. Had sympathy for some of the points being raised before, didn't always agree with all the changes at the club either but the way some have behaved is embarrassing and has alienated a lot of people who might have been willing to listen. I don't think this specific group actually care that much if we move to Eco Park or not though, it's just a bandwagon to get on and an excuse to act like utter bellends. The ones who actually care or have real counter arguments are either doing it sensibly or have stopped coming.
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Re: Mark Cooper

Postby Tomiswalking » Wed Jan 15, 2020 12:18 pm

Kentstripe wrote:
FGR-Ledge wrote:The funny thing is, myself and many other long serving "true" fans used to have a great deal of sympathy for your plight. We tried to organise meetings with yourselves and the club and fought for bans to be quashed.

However the absolutely appalling behaviour from your group of cretins has tarnished our great club and made yiu look like a bunch of thick, narrow-minded right wing thugs.

It is incredibly sad and pathetic and have lost any good will from pretty much all long-serving fans.

If you had all used an ounce of humility and intelligence, you would have probably been in a point of strength and unity, instead you look embarrassing.

Sorry for the bluntness, but many people I know think the same and you are thought of as pond-life now.


This. Had sympathy for some of the points being raised before, didn't always agree with all the changes at the club either but the way some have behaved is embarrassing and has alienated a lot of people who might have been willing to listen. I don't think this specific group actually care that much if we move to Eco Park or not though, it's just a bandwagon to get on and an excuse to act like utter bellends. The ones who actually care or have real counter arguments are either doing it sensibly or have stopped coming.


Same. Must be a shame for the small group that alot of their pals dont go to games anymore. But people change, have other commitments, move away to university, give up drinking, get jobs elsewhere, start paying mortgages. None of that is the fault of DV.

The young ones are there now filling the spaces, need to teach them the good songs, look after them.
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Re: Mark Cooper

Postby michael » Wed Jan 15, 2020 12:28 pm

does anyone seriously think that less than 1% of the customer base have the potential to 'destroy our club' as has been posted a couple of times ?

flatters them is probably the years biggest overstatement to date.

a bit like wasps - mildly annoying for a few months -but then just disappear into their own habitat where they are comfortable with each other.
no need to harm them-give the less aggressive ones a modicum of respect , and then let them live in their own environment

swat them/poke them and they come back for more.
ignore them and they go away through lack of attention/commitment and get bored
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Re: Mark Cooper

Postby Chrisgump11 » Wed Jan 15, 2020 12:38 pm

I have taken up FGRC2's request as have no wish to 'fall out'

Life long Labour voter am I, though never a Socialist. Lately voted for our friend David as local loyalty overcame the appalling national choice. That went well!

My issue was with FGRC2's language & sentiments not socialism. Reminiscent of Wolfie from Citizen Smith I thought?

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Re: Mark Cooper

Postby Football Poets » Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:19 pm

Silver Surfer wrote:I was particularly disappointed when, at a recent home game, a large banner of Trevor Horsley was displayed. It gave me great pleasure to be reminded of him and all he did for FGR. However someone pointed out that they actually didn't give a toss about TH, and were only using his image to "get at" the current management,. I wonder what his family feel about his image being used in this way. Truly pathetic, childish and insensitive behaviour.


Silver Surfer.I don't know if you an East Stand/North Stand or South Stand fan?
I presume East. but I also feel very strongly that you should apologise for pointing out something that 'someone (?) apparently/allegedy pointed out to you. Hhow dare you make such an outrageous, un-founded claim that 'they' 'don't give a toss about Trevor Horsley' .A wonderful man, who actually went out of his way to get to know the fans including the said South Stand fans and back at the old ground..

I also agree Admin shoud have removed Silver Surfer's post.

This is aside from the emotive and bigger issue of abusive songs/chanting which is being vociferously debated here. An issue that I -and many here- understand and which exists in a minory at most clubs .I appreciste that it is upsetting both other fans and Mark Cooper and childfren and this is a huge topic on its own.

Above all, it's particularly saddening that all this is coming to a head but it needs to. I have advocated dialogue and have asked Helen and otherrs etc for ages in the past that dialogue between ther club and said fans would really help. No one ever sets foot or visits the South Stand. It's like -young or old-we are all tarnished as rebels .

The new unique drum stand was a big breakthrough, as were the younger South Stand fans coming to ther to the last Fans Forum. I feit at the end of the night that we had a tiny, timely breakthrough ..especially when Dale came over afterwards and spoke with them and us and agreed the stand..and said how pleased he was to meet them. There is much to do still . None of which is helped by winding up people .

Whaever you thing of the young singers, there were countless seasons when the only sound in the stadium were the South Stand Green Army. I remember our being outsung by 30 odd from Solihull. It's fine for others to say the atmosphere has improved in the East Stand but having sat t in there twice recerntly. when i i could 't stand and drum for a game and it was still pretty quiet I'm afraid. (and i know they are trying!)


Bottom line ....So much work to do.
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Re: Mark Cooper

Postby The Old TomCat » Wed Jan 15, 2020 5:07 pm

Football Poets wrote:
Silver Surfer wrote:I was particularly disappointed when, at a recent home game, a large banner of Trevor Horsley was displayed. It gave me great pleasure to be reminded of him and all he did for FGR. However someone pointed out that they actually didn't give a toss about TH, and were only using his image to "get at" the current management,. I wonder what his family feel about his image being used in this way. Truly pathetic, childish and insensitive behaviour.


Silver Surfer.I don't know if you an East Stand/North Stand or South Stand fan?
I presume East. but I also feel very strongly that you should apologise for pointing out something that 'someone (?) apparently/allegedy pointed out to you. Hhow dare you make such an outrageous, un-founded claim that 'they' 'don't give a toss about Trevor Horsley' .A wonderful man, who actually went out of his way to get to know the fans including the said South Stand fans and back at the old ground..

I also agree Admin shoud have removed Silver Surfer's post.


I must sit on the fence with this one.
I was also perplexed when the flag was rolled down.
There was no pre-publicity that it would be done.
And I'm still not sure about the motive.
And because of that, it has led to all sorts of conjecture by a few posters.
If there was a good reason and everybody knew it would happen I'm sure those in the East & North Stands would be in support.
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Re: Mark Cooper

Postby Tomiswalking » Wed Jan 15, 2020 5:11 pm

Some people dont realise how lucky they are.
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Re: Mark Cooper

Postby Podgers » Wed Jan 15, 2020 5:31 pm

I haven’t been on here in years, but got a text today asking had I seen the comments about Trev’s flag so thought I’d just take a little look.

Boy am I glad I’m not a regular visitor to these pages, but I feel the need to post on a couple of things.

TH was someone I looked up to and admired, while we didn’t always agree around the board table, we both understood where we were coming from. That aside, to suggest fans who have purchased a flag (many months ago and raising money for charity in the process) in his memory because of what he did for the club and the impact he had on so many fans lives is what is pathetic, insensitive and childish.

Having known you during my time at the club, I’m disappointed to see you turning this into a political agenda Pete. That’s a low blow to those who contributed who genuinely loved the big man.

Although I am still even more disappointed as far as I know TH is yet to be recognised at The New Lawn. Where is the plaque, or even statue the man so deserves. Perhaps we’re waiting until the new stadium is built before we honour him as he deserves?

While I’m here too, Chris Grump, let’s not spread incorrect information. When Dale came into the club he did not do so buying shares from Trevor so to state Trevor sold the club to Dale is incorrect.

Also, remember over the years Trevor invested in excess of £2m of his personal wealth to the club as donations and not in return for shares. If he had requested shares to the value of all he had put in the club might not be in the position it is today.
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Re: Mark Cooper

Postby skintsea » Wed Jan 15, 2020 5:39 pm

Going to make my first post on this having been a long time lurker.

I've been going to games since I was about 12, around when Dale took over the club, I can't go nearly as much anymore as I've moved away for university, so the last three years this forum has been my main way of keeping up with the club week in, week out, thanks to everyone for their insights.
Having said that I think some of the vilification of people in the South Stand here goes a bit far, vocal support is an important part of football and it won't always be positive, I wasn't at the Mansfield game and I can't speak for it and whether it crossed a line. But for as long as I remember some members of this forum have had a go at the South Stand for this or that, a) acting like its unified front where everyone thinks the same, and b) for adding even a hint on unsavoury language when this is part of the game and part of why many many people go (although maybe not around Stroud)

if you go to Football grounds across the country, you will find people swearing, you will find people getting angry and you will find people who have a strong identity with the club that goes against what an owner envisions - Manchester United and the Glazers, Arsenal and Kroenke, Newcastle and Ashley. These are all extreme examples but I find a bit ridiculous to think that just because people on this forum view not supporting everything that changes as akin to being against the club, in other clubs the tables would be turned completely. If you look at whats changed, changing the colors, the badge and now the stadium, most clubs I think would have a strong element against this as a pose to a minority.


Given this I would say understanding is needed, Forest Green are going against the mold that football was made in, I have resigned myself to this and have invested too much time, emotion and money into it at this point to just stop loving the club, and in the end I treasure so many memories of the last 10 years which I realize have mainly come as a result of Dale Vince's pocket, so I accept the stadium and the ownership, but I understand why people don't and why they might be upset. Labeling people who like you, invest time, money and love into something that you share as a bad element is not good support either.
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