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Mark Coopers future at Rovers

PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 6:56 am
by Cotswold farmer
I was going to comment on the thread which has now been locked for some reason. The club needs a overhaul both of the squad which like Gary Johnson found last season at Cheltenham roughly the same of the season time wasn't strong enough we need at least 6 players in to make us competitive in division 4 plus the clubs PR to its support. The present squad hasn't the strength or nous to stay up in my opinion and that has to be addressed now as we were never as strong a side as Lincoln so needed more input.
On the managers future ? Its all down to the next 7 weeks its make or break for him we must improve in ALL areas or we may well go back down its that simple. On the managers PR with the support that has never been high and its down to performances for 90% of it I believe ? As for the clubs PR to its support that really does need a drastic overhaul " the sound of silence" really isn't good enough. I really do despair at the attitude the club appears to have in discussing matters simple things like stewarding etc etc met by in my opinion a stone wall of silence so come on Rovers trust the support engage with it. Only positives will come treating the support in a nanny knows best is a recipe for failure.
I wish you all a happy and healthy new year.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:22 am
by Kentstripe
Good post.

MC will get more time I suspect, no point sanctioning his signings if you don't give him a chance to use them.

Things are pretty toxic atm, which is sad to see, but I accept that will continue unless we start getting results. I'd imagine most fans just want us to start winning games and playing well, if we do that will help calm things down a bit I hope.

I also hope that the board start being more transparent with bans/stewarding issues/complaints etc, if communication is clear and both sides know where they stand and have a constant dialogue/understanding then a lot of these issues would be avoided.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:23 am
by Earl
Edited.
Cooper’s future it seems is assured.
The owner must have confidence in his managerial expertise and man management.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 10:43 am
by voodoobluesman
Sometimes the bullies and thugs win.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:06 am
by Phil_mitchell
Sat in pubs in Tetbury drinking with Swindon and city fans laughing about how **** our fans are. No thanks MC good bye

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:17 am
by tommyd
Cooper doesn't like the fans, that is clear so I don't see how things can turn around. He's a nasty piece of work and I am debating wether to return whilst he's still in charge.
Yesterday when he had gone there was a dramatic change in atmosphere and for the first time in ages the club felt like it was pulling in the same direction. The mans poison in my opinion and the sooner he goes the better.
I can't see it happening though.

Re: Mark Coopers future at Rovers

PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:18 am
by Old Git
What I find most shocking/surprising about the recent shenanigans is the "wall of silence" from the club. Even a statement that they were looking at the evidence available and/or what was/was not considered acceptable would be a first step at the very least. I realise Dale may look on the club as lifestyle changing tool and not want to get too involved in the day to day running. I'm sure that many fans are looking to his lead or at least for his opinions whatever they may be.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:43 am
by Too occasional fan
I’ve been suspicious about his man management skills since he took over from Scott at the first Wembley final before he was in post.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:53 am
by fgr2016
I think it's too simplistic to say that it was MC sending off that raised the sprints. It's was the improved performance. If the players had started like that then there wouldn't be such claims.

Did the players performance improve because Cooper wasn't there? The question here is, up until 4 games ago before our horrific injury list, there players were playing like this every game? Answer is yes.

There is the converse argument here - could the players have been saying "the managers lost we need to fight for him".

I do think MC needs to come out and apologise for bringing the club into disrepute....waking up to BBC1 talking about us must have horrific for him, the club and all of us. If he shows some public humility then I think he will have a bit more time on his hands... At least from me. MC was wrong to be angry about the red card... It was red. Simple as that as. He now needs to admit this and I think that simple gesture would help things along a lot.

At the same time, I sit here and think would I like some sections of the fans if I was manager? Jeering a 21 year old goalkeeper...only cheering when we are on the front foot... . Bemoaning every attempt to keep possession... Happy to attack at the bad but quiet when there is a promotion and good form....Happy to moan at the money in the game but not praise their manager for attempting to promote young and hungry talent and give them a shot at the game.... Moan that we make mistakes but not acknowledge hat at least it's fun to watch FGR then the whack it to the fat guy styles of Lincoln, Wycombe etc......

Cooper is NOT perfect and he needs to sort out his conduct.. But I adore his principles and I desparately want them to work. I want to support a club that wants to play attractive football, that has values and wants to approach the game in a sustainable way. However I would like him to look at his relationship with the fans too and perhaps apologise for the last two weeks where the pressure has got the better of some of the decisions.

Relationships are two way, give and take and I think some "supporters" could do with looking in the mirror AS WELL AS COOPER and think about what we have and realise that our strengths can be our weaknesses too.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 12:12 pm
by montyc
I think it's obvious by now MC is going nowhere in the near future so the best thing we can all do is get behind the team and support the club as a whole. Who knows with new blood he's promised MC just might turn things around, survival this season has to be the priority, relegation not an option. Lets hope the next two months are better than the last two.
My own personal thoughts on MC I think are well known, don't like him as our manager (don't know him personally), wasn't happy when he was appointed but I have to live with that, he got us to the promised land whether he can keep us there we shall have to wait and see.

I hate to say it, We Have To Keep The Faith.

Happy New Year (lets hope it will be for FGR) ;)

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 12:23 pm
by chrism
Agreed, whilst I am concerned that the club is being brought into disrepute (remembering that whatever may have happened at Lincoln is still under investigation and not proven), this needs to be dealt with internally and we need to spend Jan concentrating on strengthening the team to keep us in this league, not looking for a new manager, by which time it may well be too late.

Re: Mark Coopers future at Rovers

PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 12:25 pm
by Phil_mitchell
I don't care how we play as long as we win and stay up I don't care if the players are 20 or 40 just want them to be good enough.
He has a big 29 days infront of him to bring in some quality and save us from humiliation.

Re: Mark Coopers future at Rovers

PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 1:19 pm
by fgr2016
Phil_mitchell wrote:I don't care how we play as long as we win and stay up I don't care if the players are 20 or 40 just want them to be good enough.
He has a big 29 days infront of him to bring in some quality and save us from humiliation.



I do! I wouldn't pay to watch Wycombe every week..I come to football for entertainment and for the communal spirit... Winning or loosing.

Re: Mark Coopers future at Rovers

PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 2:18 pm
by king giraffe III
fgr2016 wrote:
Phil_mitchell wrote:I don't care how we play as long as we win and stay up I don't care if the players are 20 or 40 just want them to be good enough.
He has a big 29 days infront of him to bring in some quality and save us from humiliation.



I do! I wouldn't pay to watch Wycombe every week..I come to football for entertainment and for the communal spirit... Winning or loosing.


Wycombe are a club I admire greatly for showing how it can be done off and on the pitch.

Re: Mark Coopers future at Rovers

PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 2:25 pm
by Phil_mitchell
fgr2016 wrote:
Phil_mitchell wrote:I don't care how we play as long as we win and stay up I don't care if the players are 20 or 40 just want them to be good enough.
He has a big 29 days infront of him to bring in some quality and save us from humiliation.



I do! I wouldn't pay to watch Wycombe every week..I come to football for entertainment and for the communal spirit... Winning or loosing.



Ahh that's cute. Well I don't I go to watch my team win, we all have different ways of supporting the club I imagine mine is entirely different to yours.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 2:34 pm
by SNJ Ash

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 2:38 pm
by Phil_mitchell
Good old Bob spoon feeding questions to Dale and agreeing with everything he's said.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 2:52 pm
by doggy
Playing devils advocate aint easy, but i will have a go, the newer fans, for me,are more than welcome and a boost to the club as we go forward, but they have to realise that us longer term fans have endured some woeful times in the past, where we have only survived relegation by having football wise members on the board, and, so when someone like DV comes in at the 23rd hour and saves the club from certain extinction, but also promises the world for the price of accepting his regime can turn out to be a tad irritating, and by this I mean, we dont care how many vegetable samosas we sell, we dont really care that much about how organic our pitch is, because we are old school fans, just interested in our teams position in the footballing world, we dont care for a certain style, we care about results, for, although its a sport, its a results orientated sport. Now I personally have no negative thoughts about DV`s ethics, but I do care how Forest Green is run as a football club, and there is a fine line between running it as an advertising tool for your ethics and running it with football being the main reason. Dale needs to wise up to the real reasons we have such an unique club, its not something he developed, we were unique well before him, so, he needs to accept that whilst his "new" batch of fans are both welcome and enticed he has to respect that the older football purists need some things done in the old fashioned way, this means a total review of communications, fan management and football inspired advisers on the board, the latter my main gripe, as someone with experience in this field would have prevented the situation we find ourselves in now, advise on signings,contracts,communications and stewarding just to name a few.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 2:57 pm
by Silver Surfer
Phil_mitchell wrote:Good old Bob spoon feeding questions to Dale and agreeing with everything he's said.

What question would you have liked to see asked?

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 2:59 pm
by Phil_mitchell
The fans are not happy Dale they haven't been for a long time. What is your message to them?.

Dale there is a toxic atmosphere around the place at the moment does that worry you?
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