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Manny and Drissa gone.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:04 pm
by Phil_mitchell
My ITK source tells me with have gone. One to tranmere on loan.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:40 pm
by Kentstripe
Manny's the one going to Tranmere on loan apparently.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:27 pm
by Tomiswalking
Drissa was core to our promotion last season. Manny has a huge amount of potential and I will miss him. Best of luck to both of them.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:32 pm
by gooseman
Not surprised.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 9:14 pm
by man_of_kent
Manny tended to struggle at this level but Drissa was often the best player on the pitch and a class above the rest. Were others around him able to play at his level?

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:05 pm
by mbroadbent
Drissa is / was one of the best players i've seen at FGR. obv some question marks on his potential to play the full 90mins week in week out, but its unbelievable hes not playing each week

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 1:32 am
by Foreign Green
mbroadbent wrote:Drissa is / was one of the best players i've seen at FGR. obv some question marks on his potential to play the full 90mins week in week out, but its unbelievable hes not playing each week


No doubt about his skills and potential, but what about his attitude? A football match lasts at least 90 minutes. A true professional must be ready to play 90 minutes at full steam, if he´s fit.

I´ve understood, Drissa was at least once recovering from injuries, when he was playing some of his 60 minute games. But fitness training, getting endurance, is not any rocket science. It requires just time and will. If there weren´t any physical obstacles, a professional sportsman should be in full match fitness in 2-5 weeks.

So the key issue is, why Drissa hasn´t been in 90 minutes match fitness during the whole season? Did he have some injuries or problems, minor or bigger, we didn´t know?

Or was it simply so, that he didn´t have the attitude, a full-time professional should always have?

If so, that can´t be forgiven, not depending on, how skilful or useful the player is on the pitch. It´s not only the issue of himself or his career. It will often have effects to the whole team spirit, poisoning it little by little. That´s why no need to sit even on the bench. A rotten apple case.

Because I don´t know anything about Drissa´s case, I don´t claim, he´s a rotten apple or has a bad attitude. Could be just something else. But many times wondered, why is it so hard for him to get to 90 minutes fitness. Certainly a solid player for this level.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:30 am
by GETCARTER
Have witnessed Drissa with KMB together outside of match time - enough said ?.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:32 am
by Norton Boy
Having lost his mother earlier in the season maybe this has affected him and wasnt he alsi having to look after his younger siblings.No idea if this is a contributing factor but it coud be.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:44 am
by Chrisgump11
Good 'posting' for Manny. Tranmere had a shocking result last night that puts Macc well clear. He has a positive experience of the play-offs that may come to Tranmere's aid and do him a power of good. Hope so

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:21 am
by Tommo
Who knows what happened to Drissa but he wasn't able to impose himself for any lengthy periods of any game I saw him in this season. The trickery and possession game he played to such great effect at National Conference level just didn't work at League 2 level and he lost the ball when in possession too often. Maybe, as others have said, that was because he never got completely fit and that was caused in part by his sad bereavement. Maybe he wasn't prepared to work hard enough. Maybe he simply had a row with MC. We will never know.

I do wish him all the best though in whatever is next for him since he was a huge part of our greatest ever season (so far).

In Collins and Clements we have a good defensive minded and attack minded (respectively) alternatives to Drissa - better suited to League 2 I suspect. Both have already scored more than Drissa did.

I hope Manny does well at Tranmere and its great he has an opportunity to learn some more. I hope too that he is impressive enough that MC wants him back since he does have, imo, a lot of promise. He has the stature, speed and ball control to go further but needs to improve his concentration or whatever it is that causes the odd error.

We have enough cover now in defense and defensive midfield so I'm just glad he is getting a chance to ply his trade for the rest of the season then see if he can come back in the summer. Maybe he will get to Wembley again with Tranmere.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:15 pm
by tommyd
If it's not about attitude I'm shocked that drissa has left, he may only be able to play 60 minutes but id say he'd still be very useful off the bench to keep possession. Something that would have been very useful on Saturday. He's not the only player that can't play in every game is he?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:29 pm
by NewForestRover
I would have thought 20 mins of Drissa magic is better than none at all so I think he definitely deserved a place on the bench. So he could come on and make an impact when needed.

But maybe he wasn't satisfied with being a sub or he did fall out with MC?

Whatever the reason, it's a shame he's gone.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:25 pm
by voodoobluesman
Hang on a second here, there is no evidence whatsoever that either of them have gone, it's just rumour and conjecture.

As previously stated too, Drissa has had an horrific time of it with his Mother's death and the fact that he is now also looking after his siblings. Perhaps playing football in a different country is not top of his agenda. It's a shame that we don't see him on the pitch at the moment, for whatever reason, but I just hope everything's OK for him. Let's hope his beaming smile returns.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:09 pm
by SNJ Ash

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:11 pm
by tommyd
voodoobluesman wrote:Hang on a second here, there is no evidence whatsoever that either of them have gone, it's just rumour and conjecture.
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Sorry forgot we are not allowed to discuss anything but fact on a football forum are we? :roll:

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:15 pm
by voodoobluesman
tommyd wrote:
voodoobluesman wrote:Hang on a second here, there is no evidence whatsoever that either of them have gone, it's just rumour and conjecture.
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Sorry forgot we are not allowed to discuss anything but fact on a football forum are we? :roll:


Of course we can, but it's a bit stupid that people are discussing it as though it were a fact.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 6:24 pm
by Fartvs Antiqvvs
As our American Cousins would say, "Soccer Scuttlebutt".

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:44 pm
by king giraffe III
NewForestRover wrote: did [DT] fall out with MC?


Some players can be surprisingly forthright in their honesty.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 8:04 pm
by GETCARTER
Has the club said that Drissa has gone ?.