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Re: Brexit

Postby Too occasional fan » Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:08 am

A question to Brexiteers.

What benefits do you see there are to the UK from Brexit?
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Re: Brexit

Postby paulK » Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:17 am

Silver Surfer wrote:If brexit is such a good idea, why is one of the main fans, Sir James Dyson, moving his business out of Britain?


I have no idea, but you can guarantee it is because he thinks his company will benefit. Can't see how Brexit would have anything to do with it tho'
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Re: Brexit

Postby paulK » Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:18 am

Too occasional fan wrote:A question to Brexiteers.

What benefits do you see there are to the UK from Brexit?



You're asking this AGAIN :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Brexit

Postby stroud green » Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:58 am

If I was a betting man I would lay on Article 50 being revoked this week

https://www.itv.com/news/2019-04-08/is-cancelling-brexit-the-prime-ministers-new-default/
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Re: Brexit

Postby king giraffe III » Mon Apr 08, 2019 2:13 pm

The Old TomCat wrote:
I'm not in the least bit offended because I know you are talking a load of old twaddle.
I'm not offended because I know that you are searching the depths of the gutter to make a point.
I'm not offended by your self-righteous post.
And no I'm not offended by your racist comment even though my grandfather was Welsh and my mother grew up in Brecon.
I'm not offended even though my father was foreign born, my first wife was foreign born, my son is married to a foreign-born woman and they live on the EU mainland with their two children.
I'm not offended even though my sister, now a grandmother, has lived almost all her working life in the USA.
I'm not offended even though I have spent years living abroad in Europe and the Near East.
I'm not offended even though I have happily lodged with an Asian family.

It is you KG111 who is coming across on forum as a pseudo anti-racist zealot whereas the rest of us are happy to live in harmony with our neighbour, no matter what creed, colour or religion they be.

The overwhelming majority of those who voted LEAVE was because UK will be a much better place outside the EU.
Check out my earlier posts for confirmation of that fact.


I have checked your posts. I can't see why Britain will be better off outside the EU.

Second, I can't see any racist comment in my last post. Do you mean my mention of 'This England' magazine? That peculiar hauntological periodical that harkens back to the days of the Blitz spirit, quiet country lanes, Robin Goodfellow, Merrie England and labourers in smocks bringing in the hay. How is mentioning this magazine racist in itself? I laugh that off because, as Tree Hugger suggests, your understanding of what is and what isn't racist is perhaps not in tandem with us.

You said.. 'It is you KG111 who is coming across on forum as a pseudo anti-racist zealot whereas the rest of us are happy to live in harmony with our neighbour, no matter what creed, colour or religion they be.'

I view that as a compliment. Not only is your comment a hilarious paradox, I'm wondering why you feel we should not all be anti-racist zealots. Surely a hard stance against racism is what we should all be taking?
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Re: Brexit

Postby Too occasional fan » Mon Apr 08, 2019 4:33 pm

paulK wrote:
Too occasional fan wrote:A question to Brexiteers.

What benefits do you see there are to the UK from Brexit?



You're asking this AGAIN :lol: :lol: :lol:


Oh, it’s worth asking again and again.

Who knows, there might be a sensible answer one day.
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Re: Brexit

Postby Fartvs Antiqvvs » Mon Apr 08, 2019 5:41 pm

Too occasional fan wrote:A question to Brexiteers.

What benefits do you see there are to the UK from Brexit?


Not picking up JCJ's drinks tab would be a good start for our own economic upturn. :lol:
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Re: Brexit

Postby paulK » Mon Apr 08, 2019 5:55 pm

Too occasional fan wrote:
paulK wrote:
Too occasional fan wrote:A question to Brexiteers.

What benefits do you see there are to the UK from Brexit?



You're asking this AGAIN :lol: :lol: :lol:


Oh, it’s worth asking again and again.

Who knows, there might be a sensible answer one day.



You mean an answer you might agree with :?: No way :shock:

Or is it you just like to argue ;)
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Re: Brexit

Postby SimonC » Mon Apr 08, 2019 6:08 pm

I cant remember who said it first, I think it might have been Billy Bragg? but the best comment I've read about Brexit is "Obviously not everyone who voted for Brexit is a racist/bigot, but you can be sure that every racist/bigot did vote for Brexit"
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Re: Brexit

Postby andymac26 » Mon Apr 08, 2019 6:24 pm

SimonC wrote:I cant remember who said it first, I think it might have been Billy Bragg? but the best comment I've read about Brexit is "Obviously not everyone who voted for Brexit is a racist/bigot, but you can be sure that every racist/bigot did vote for Brexit"


That's the point - and enough of them to have swung the vote for 'leave.'
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Re: Brexit

Postby paulK » Mon Apr 08, 2019 9:48 pm

andymac26 wrote:
SimonC wrote:I cant remember who said it first, I think it might have been Billy Bragg? but the best comment I've read about Brexit is "Obviously not everyone who voted for Brexit is a racist/bigot, but you can be sure that every racist/bigot did vote for Brexit"


That's the point - and enough of them to have swung the vote for 'leave.'


Surely it was the ones who aren't racist and voted for leave were the ones who swung it, based on comments on this forum :roll:
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Re: Brexit

Postby Too occasional fan » Mon Apr 08, 2019 10:45 pm

paulK wrote:
Too occasional fan wrote:
paulK wrote:
Too occasional fan wrote:A question to Brexiteers.

What benefits do you see there are to the UK from Brexit?



You're asking this AGAIN :lol: :lol: :lol:


Oh, it’s worth asking again and again.

Who knows, there might be a sensible answer one day.



You mean an answer you might agree with :?: No way :shock:

Or is it you just like to argue ;)

Just a sensible answer would do.
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Re: Brexit

Postby NewForestRover » Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:57 pm

After all this time, all that's happened (or not happened!) I think we should all have the option to vote again.

So many of us didn't understand the consequences of leaving, didn't understand the disruption it would cause and how it would affect us if we did.

I voted to leave but if I was given the chance to vote again?

I'd vote remain.

I'm sure I'm not the only one.
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Re: Brexit

Postby paulK » Tue Apr 09, 2019 12:15 am

Too occasional fan wrote:
paulK wrote:
Too occasional fan wrote:
paulK wrote:
Too occasional fan wrote:A question to Brexiteers.

What benefits do you see there are to the UK from Brexit?



You're asking this AGAIN :lol: :lol: :lol:


Oh, it’s worth asking again and again.

Who knows, there might be a sensible answer one day.



You mean an answer you might agree with :?: No way :shock:

Or is it you just like to argue ;)

Just a sensible answer would do.


You mean one you would consider sensible :o No way does that exist :shock:
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Re: Brexit

Postby Too occasional fan » Tue Apr 09, 2019 12:50 am

Ok, just try with a sensible one.
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Re: Brexit

Postby michael » Tue Apr 09, 2019 1:08 am

NewForestRover wrote:After all this time, all that's happened (or not happened!) I think we should all have the option to vote again.

So many of us didn't understand the consequences of leaving, didn't understand the disruption it would cause and how it would affect us if we did.

I voted to leave but if I was given the chance to vote again?

I'd vote remain.

I'm sure I'm not the only one.


Appreciate and welcome your honesty .
I sincerely hope you get your opportunity .

If nothing else, one of the results of this debacle is that young people will realise how their votes do matter,and that the older generations can't be entrusted with the future of youth.
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Re: Brexit

Postby michael » Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:49 am

Whilst consistently a whole hearted Remainer myself-some may find the following well written piece / link interesting and thoughtful ,from another previous Brexiteer who has had a similar change of heart as NFR .

Always time to do the right thing and have a similar change of heart OTC !!

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opende ... ink-again/


SORRY-I have just realised the Pitchfork posted the same article a few days ago.(careless-not plagiarism on my behalf )That given- i have left this post on as i really think it is a well written and balance article
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Re: Brexit

Postby paulK » Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:04 am

Too occasional fan wrote:Ok, just try with a sensible one.


We could have a more rational immigration policy which focuses on the skills we need and those who will integrate well into our culture.

Oh, and by the way, I voted remain.
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Re: Brexit

Postby Too occasional fan » Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:46 am

paulK wrote:
Too occasional fan wrote:Ok, just try with a sensible one.


We could have a more rational immigration policy which focuses on the skills we need and those who will integrate well into our culture.

Oh, and by the way, I voted remain.


There are immigration steps that we could have taken already, as members of the EU. It is up to our government to use the powers that are already there.

But we haven't used them and certain quarters are happy to blame the EU for the result of not implementing what we could have.

I'd accept this as a reason for leaving the EU if we had already done everything that we have the powers to, but we haven't.

Next...
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Re: Brexit

Postby paulK » Tue Apr 09, 2019 12:34 pm

Too occasional fan wrote:
paulK wrote:
Too occasional fan wrote:Ok, just try with a sensible one.


We could have a more rational immigration policy which focuses on the skills we need and those who will integrate well into our culture.

Oh, and by the way, I voted remain.


There are immigration steps that we could have taken already, as members of the EU. It is up to our government to use the powers that are already there.

But we haven't used them and certain quarters are happy to blame the EU for the result of not implementing what we could have.

I'd accept this as a reason for leaving the EU if we had already done everything that we have the powers to, but we haven't.

Next...


Exactly. Even I can see the validity in the argument and you've not really stated anything of substance to invalidate the reason. I'm not even sure that your argument that we are blaming the EU for not implementing what we could have is valid.

As I said, you won't agree with anything, so it's pretty pointless putting anything forward..
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