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Re: DV claims FGR would fold if it was causing climate chang

Postby The Old TomCat » Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:03 pm

Too occasional fan wrote:
Do you really think that you need ALL scientists to agree before action is taken?


Well if 99% of them are wrong the answer is YES.
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Re: DV claims FGR would fold if it was causing climate chang

Postby Too occasional fan » Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:22 pm

The Old TomCat wrote:
Too occasional fan wrote:
Do you really think that you need ALL scientists to agree before action is taken?


Well if 99% of them are wrong the answer is YES.


Who decides if they are wrong, a bloke in a flat cap selling FGR programmes?
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Re: DV claims FGR would fold if it was causing climate chang

Postby The Old TomCat » Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:34 pm

Too occasional fan wrote:
The Old TomCat wrote:
Too occasional fan wrote:
Do you really think that you need ALL scientists to agree before action is taken?


Well if 99% of them are wrong the answer is YES.


Who decides if they are wrong, a bloke in a flat cap selling FGR programmes?

It is people like you who had the Brexit thread closed down by being personal.
Pack it up. Okay.
Presumably you've not yet watched the Andrew Neil show that will supply both sides of the debate.
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Re: DV claims FGR would fold if it was causing climate chang

Postby Tomiswalking » Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:58 pm

Otc can you provide some evidence of a scientist disputing climate change.
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Re: DV claims FGR would fold if it was causing climate chang

Postby The Old TomCat » Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:03 pm

Tomiswalking wrote:Otc can you provide some evidence of a scientist disputing climate change.

Can do better than that.
Watch the Andrew Neil show and you'll get your answer.
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Re: DV claims FGR would fold if it was causing climate chang

Postby twoguns » Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:18 pm

It is disappointing this thread has descended into personal attacks.

Anyone who thinks climate change is not upon us is simply burying their heads in the sand and our future generations are going to pay a heavy price from this ignorance.
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Re: DV claims FGR would fold if it was causing climate chang

Postby Tomiswalking » Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:18 pm

The Old TomCat wrote:
Tomiswalking wrote:Otc can you provide some evidence of a scientist disputing climate change.

Can do better than that.
Watch the Andrew Neil show and you'll get your answer.

I have. I was hoping for a scientific paper. Or some evidence.
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Re: DV claims FGR would fold if it was causing climate chang

Postby paulK » Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:35 pm

The Old TomCat wrote:
Too occasional fan wrote:
The Old TomCat wrote:
Too occasional fan wrote:
Do you really think that you need ALL scientists to agree before action is taken?


Well if 99% of them are wrong the answer is YES.


Who decides if they are wrong, a bloke in a flat cap selling FGR programmes?

It is people like you who had the Brexit thread closed down by being personal.
Pack it up. Okay.


+1
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Re: DV claims FGR would fold if it was causing climate chang

Postby lovejoy2 » Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:42 pm

Fartvs Antiqvvs wrote:It struck me that the E/R demos 'across the world's capitals' are generally the soft target European ones.

This Country is doing more to combat climate change than any other on our planet. I didn't see E/R demonstrating in Beijing, Moscow, Riyadh, Doha, Abu dhabi, Kuwait City, Bagdad and so on, some of the real polluters on earth. They would get short shrift there I suppose.


Actually your wrong there were demonstrations in city’s all over the world
Also this country has a long way to go to be one of the most active in combating climate change
Your burying your head in the sand and blaming others.
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Re: DV claims FGR would fold if it was causing climate chang

Postby andymac26 » Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:44 pm

twoguns wrote:It is disappointing this thread has descended into personal attacks.

Anyone who thinks climate change is not upon us is simply burying their heads in the sand and our future generations are going to pay a heavy price from this ignorance.


+1. No other posts needed as far as I'm concerned.
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Re: DV claims FGR would fold if it was causing climate chang

Postby Timb » Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:55 pm

Agreed...
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Re: DV claims FGR would fold if it was causing climate chang

Postby paulK » Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:59 pm

andymac26 wrote:
twoguns wrote:It is disappointing this thread has descended into personal attacks.

Anyone who thinks climate change is not upon us is simply burying their heads in the sand and our future generations are going to pay a heavy price from this ignorance.


+1. No other posts needed as far as I'm concerned.


Is there anyone here who thinks climate change is not upon us? I don't get the impression there is. On that I think we all agree, but surely people should be able to discuss whatever?
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Re: DV claims FGR would fold if it was causing climate chang

Postby Too occasional fan » Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:38 pm

Tomiswalking wrote:
The Old TomCat wrote:
Tomiswalking wrote:Otc can you provide some evidence of a scientist disputing climate change.

Can do better than that.
Watch the Andrew Neil show and you'll get your answer.

I have. I was hoping for a scientific paper. Or some evidence.



Indeed. Evidence would be good.
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Re: DV claims FGR would fold if it was causing climate chang

Postby Too occasional fan » Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:47 pm

paulK wrote:
andymac26 wrote:
twoguns wrote:It is disappointing this thread has descended into personal attacks.

Anyone who thinks climate change is not upon us is simply burying their heads in the sand and our future generations are going to pay a heavy price from this ignorance.


+1. No other posts needed as far as I'm concerned.


Is there anyone here who thinks climate change is not upon us? I don't get the impression there is. On that I think we all agree, but surely people should be able to discuss whatever?


Climate change is here.

Two schools of thought - it’s natural, versus it’s man made.
If it is man made, then there’s a lot of soul searching and behavioural change that needs to happen.
For some, it is easier to say it is natural.
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Re: DV claims FGR would fold if it was causing climate chang

Postby paulK » Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:49 pm

Too occasional fan wrote:
Tomiswalking wrote:
The Old TomCat wrote:
Tomiswalking wrote:Otc can you provide some evidence of a scientist disputing climate change.

Can do better than that.
Watch the Andrew Neil show and you'll get your answer.

I have. I was hoping for a scientific paper. Or some evidence.



Indeed. Evidence would be good.



I'm sure if you looked up the scientists on the program you may well find evidence that they have published and or relied on?
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Re: DV claims FGR would fold if it was causing climate chang

Postby Too occasional fan » Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:51 pm

paulK wrote:
Too occasional fan wrote:
Tomiswalking wrote:
The Old TomCat wrote:
Tomiswalking wrote:Otc can you provide some evidence of a scientist disputing climate change.

Can do better than that.
Watch the Andrew Neil show and you'll get your answer.

I have. I was hoping for a scientific paper. Or some evidence.



Indeed. Evidence would be good.



I'm sure if you looked up the scientists on the program you may well find evidence that they have published and or relied on?


I think that's for OTC to do. It is he that is quoting the programme as evidence. He should back it up. Maybe you could help him out?
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Re: DV claims FGR would fold if it was causing climate chang

Postby paulK » Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:53 pm

Too occasional fan wrote:
paulK wrote:
andymac26 wrote:
twoguns wrote:It is disappointing this thread has descended into personal attacks.

Anyone who thinks climate change is not upon us is simply burying their heads in the sand and our future generations are going to pay a heavy price from this ignorance.


+1. No other posts needed as far as I'm concerned.


Is there anyone here who thinks climate change is not upon us? I don't get the impression there is. On that I think we all agree, but surely people should be able to discuss whatever?


Climate change is here.

Two schools of thought - it’s natural, versus it’s man made.
If it is man made, then there’s a lot of soul searching and behavioural change that needs to happen.
For some, it is easier to say it is natural.


Agreed. Out of interest, who are these people that are saying it's natural.
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Re: DV claims FGR would fold if it was causing climate chang

Postby paulK » Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:59 pm

Too occasional fan wrote:
paulK wrote:[

I'm sure if you looked up the scientists on the program you may well find evidence that they have published and or relied on?


I think that's for OTC to do. It is he that is quoting the programme as evidence. He should back it up. Maybe you could help him out?


Why? He was asked for evidence of scientists disputing climate change. He pointed to a source. Just because it wasn't in the format you wanted shouldn't mean he has to go and look for it for you.

You should be quite capable, of finding stuff out for yourself. I'm certainly not going to do it for you.
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Re: DV claims FGR would fold if it was causing climate chang

Postby Too occasional fan » Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:01 pm

paulK wrote:
Too occasional fan wrote:
paulK wrote:[

I'm sure if you looked up the scientists on the program you may well find evidence that they have published and or relied on?


I think that's for OTC to do. It is he that is quoting the programme as evidence. He should back it up. Maybe you could help him out?


Why? He was asked for evidence of scientists disputing climate change. He pointed you to a source. Just because it wasn't in the format you wanted shouldn't mean he has to go and look for it for you.

You should be quite capable, of finding stuff out for yourself. I'm certainly not going to do it for you.


OK. You think "The Andrew Neil Show" is a source.

My cat is laughing here. :lol: :lol:
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Re: DV claims FGR would fold if it was causing climate chang

Postby paulK » Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:18 pm

Too occasional fan wrote:
paulK wrote:
Too occasional fan wrote:
paulK wrote:[

I'm sure if you looked up the scientists on the program you may well find evidence that they have published and or relied on?


I think that's for OTC to do. It is he that is quoting the programme as evidence. He should back it up. Maybe you could help him out?


Why? He was asked for evidence of scientists disputing climate change. He pointed you to a source. Just because it wasn't in the format you wanted shouldn't mean he has to go and look for it for you.

You should be quite capable, of finding stuff out for yourself. I'm certainly not going to do it for you.


OK. You think "The Andrew Neil Show" is a source.

My cat is laughing here. :lol: :lol:


And what was the need for that? Why can't you be civil?

It was a show with scientists disagreeing on climate change.
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