Phil_mitchell wrote:The fans are not happy Dale they haven't been for a long time. What is your message to them?.
Dale there is a toxic atmosphere around the place at the moment does that worry you?
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fgr2016 wrote:Phil_mitchell wrote:I don't care how we play as long as we win and stay up I don't care if the players are 20 or 40 just want them to be good enough.
He has a big 29 days infront of him to bring in some quality and save us from humiliation.
I do! I wouldn't pay to watch Wycombe every week..I come to football for entertainment and for the communal spirit... Winning or loosing.
fatbloke wrote:You all dont get it do you? Vince is here for publicity and any publicity thats hitting headlines is good! Coopers the best panto villan he could want, doesnt care abut the club or fans!
fatbloke wrote:You all dont get it do you? Vince is here for publicity and any publicity thats hitting headlines is good! Coopers the best panto villan he could want, doesnt care abut the club or fans!
voodoobluesman wrote:fatbloke wrote:You all dont get it do you? Vince is here for publicity and any publicity thats hitting headlines is good! Coopers the best panto villan he could want, doesnt care abut the club or fans!
Oh no he isn't!
montyc wrote:voodoobluesman wrote:fatbloke wrote:You all dont get it do you? Vince is here for publicity and any publicity thats hitting headlines is good! Coopers the best panto villan he could want, doesnt care abut the club or fans!
Oh no he isn't!
Oh yes he is!.
fatbloke wrote:You all dont get it do you? Vince is here for publicity and any publicity thats hitting headlines is good! Coopers the best panto villan he could want, doesnt care abut the club or fans!
fgr2016 wrote:I think it's too simplistic to say that it was MC sending off that raised the sprints. It's was the improved performance. If the players had started like that then there wouldn't be such claims.
Did the players performance improve because Cooper wasn't there? The question here is, up until 4 games ago before our horrific injury list, there players were playing like this every game? Answer is yes.
There is the converse argument here - could the players have been saying "the managers lost we need to fight for him".
I do think MC needs to come out and apologise for bringing the club into disrepute....waking up to BBC1 talking about us must have horrific for him, the club and all of us. If he shows some public humility then I think he will have a bit more time on his hands... At least from me. MC was wrong to be angry about the red card... It was red. Simple as that as. He now needs to admit this and I think that simple gesture would help things along a lot.
At the same time, I sit here and think would I like some sections of the fans if I was manager? Jeering a 21 year old goalkeeper...only cheering when we are on the front foot... . Bemoaning every attempt to keep possession... Happy to attack at the bad but quiet when there is a promotion and good form....Happy to moan at the money in the game but not praise their manager for attempting to promote young and hungry talent and give them a shot at the game.... Moan that we make mistakes but not acknowledge hat at least it's fun to watch FGR then the whack it to the fat guy styles of Lincoln, Wycombe etc......
Cooper is NOT perfect and he needs to sort out his conduct.. But I adore his principles and I desparately want them to work. I want to support a club that wants to play attractive football, that has values and wants to approach the game in a sustainable way. However I would like him to look at his relationship with the fans too and perhaps apologise for the last two weeks where the pressure has got the better of some of the decisions.
Relationships are two way, give and take and I think some "supporters" could do with looking in the mirror AS WELL AS COOPER and think about what we have and realise that our strengths can be our weaknesses too.
FGRWill wrote:https://www.forestgreenroversfc.com/news/first-team-news/2018/we-ll-be-better-for-adversity-vince
Just in case you haven’t heard or read Dale’s interview.
Tommo wrote:fgr2016 wrote:I think it's too simplistic to say that it was MC sending off that raised the sprints. It's was the improved performance. If the players had started like that then there wouldn't be such claims.
Did the players performance improve because Cooper wasn't there? The question here is, up until 4 games ago before our horrific injury list, there players were playing like this every game? Answer is yes.
There is the converse argument here - could the players have been saying "the managers lost we need to fight for him".
I do think MC needs to come out and apologise for bringing the club into disrepute....waking up to BBC1 talking about us must have horrific for him, the club and all of us. If he shows some public humility then I think he will have a bit more time on his hands... At least from me. MC was wrong to be angry about the red card... It was red. Simple as that as. He now needs to admit this and I think that simple gesture would help things along a lot.
At the same time, I sit here and think would I like some sections of the fans if I was manager? Jeering a 21 year old goalkeeper...only cheering when we are on the front foot... . Bemoaning every attempt to keep possession... Happy to attack at the bad but quiet when there is a promotion and good form....Happy to moan at the money in the game but not praise their manager for attempting to promote young and hungry talent and give them a shot at the game.... Moan that we make mistakes but not acknowledge hat at least it's fun to watch FGR then the whack it to the fat guy styles of Lincoln, Wycombe etc......
Cooper is NOT perfect and he needs to sort out his conduct.. But I adore his principles and I desparately want them to work. I want to support a club that wants to play attractive football, that has values and wants to approach the game in a sustainable way. However I would like him to look at his relationship with the fans too and perhaps apologise for the last two weeks where the pressure has got the better of some of the decisions.
Relationships are two way, give and take and I think some "supporters" could do with looking in the mirror AS WELL AS COOPER and think about what we have and realise that our strengths can be our weaknesses too.
Best post on here for ages imo.
Dale's statement on the web site (summarised by the BBC and covered on the other thread) has reaffirmed my support for a while yet.
Norton Boy wrote:Tommo wrote:fgr2016 wrote:I think it's too simplistic to say that it was MC sending off that raised the sprints. It's was the improved performance. If the players had started like that then there wouldn't be such claims.
Did the players performance improve because Cooper wasn't there? The question here is, up until 4 games ago before our horrific injury list, there players were playing like this every game? Answer is yes.
There is the converse argument here - could the players have been saying "the managers lost we need to fight for him".
I do think MC needs to come out and apologise for bringing the club into disrepute....waking up to BBC1 talking about us must have horrific for him, the club and all of us. If he shows some public humility then I think he will have a bit more time on his hands... At least from me. MC was wrong to be angry about the red card... It was red. Simple as that as. He now needs to admit this and I think that simple gesture would help things along a lot.
At the same time, I sit here and think would I like some sections of the fans if I was manager? Jeering a 21 year old goalkeeper...only cheering when we are on the front foot... . Bemoaning every attempt to keep possession... Happy to attack at the bad but quiet when there is a promotion and good form....Happy to moan at the money in the game but not praise their manager for attempting to promote young and hungry talent and give them a shot at the game.... Moan that we make mistakes but not acknowledge hat at least it's fun to watch FGR then the whack it to the fat guy styles of Lincoln, Wycombe etc......
Cooper is NOT perfect and he needs to sort out his conduct.. But I adore his principles and I desparately want them to work. I want to support a club that wants to play attractive football, that has values and wants to approach the game in a sustainable way. However I would like him to look at his relationship with the fans too and perhaps apologise for the last two weeks where the pressure has got the better of some of the decisions.
Relationships are two way, give and take and I think some "supporters" could do with looking in the mirror AS WELL AS COOPER and think about what we have and realise that our strengths can be our weaknesses too.
Best post on here for ages imo.
Dale's statement on the web site (summarised by the BBC and covered on the other thread) has reaffirmed my support for a while yet.
I will second that, plenty saying MC needs to sort out his attitude whilst at the same time booing their own team.
fgr2016 wrote: I adore his principles and I desparately want them to work.